that's an issue that's been raised by the health care community. >> we take you back to the original sticking point. the president's proposals and what we're hearing from the bipartisan group in the senate. big difference, phrasing from senator mccain, prerequisite, to you have to have the secure border and vis-a-vie dick durbin, saying through a commission of folks watching the border, reinforcing security, et cetera. you have to have that in order to begin the pathway to citizen shup. do you agree that has to be an almost of t element of the plan? >> american people are sick of hearing about human trafficking, sex trafficking, drug trafficking, weapons trafficking. >> we have been hearing about this for so long. >> this is where some lessons should be learned. let's end illegalent trooe into the country, regardless of what the reason is. we have learned about some of the terrorist organizations that have encampments near our southern border and need to make certain we have secured that as tightly as we possible can. >> you will be sticking around with us for the rest of the show. w